Hi, Will! Nice to see you around here again. Your blog's looking good too! I know what it is like trying to remember old cartoons/comics/stuff from your childhood, too. But I'm sure we'll identify that cartoon sooner or later, the key with old stuff like this is to always be patient.
It has been a while since we last talked. I've been too busy with a new job and all my other hobbies to play with you over here. I hope all has been going well for you.
I just got some breaking new about Popeye!
My ComicsKingdom.com subscription just sent me an email about a new Youtube channel that started Sunday. The new series is called '"Popeye’s Island Adventures" and a new comic strip starting in 2019 will be called "Popeye's Cartoon Club".
What's up Chuck! Good to "see" you around! Thanks for the news, although I'm not liking what I'm seeing, really (far too kiddie for my tastes... but we'll see).
As you can notice, the page count hasn't gone up much lately; I've had to focus on tweaking on correcting stuff for a while. But I think I'm done with that for now. We shall see what these new productions bring to the table.
I believe we have made a mistake with this. In "Moon Goon!" the story depicts the Moon Rock Men inside Moon rock ships and even give two ships to Popeye and Wimpy to get back to Earth. In "Interplanetary Weapon" the Moon Rocks are shown as living creatures, as shown in the Sea Hags book titled "Beasks and Monskers of Other Worlds". We should make two separate articles and correct the errors in the first one.
Gotta say I've never read the earlier Moon Rock comics. That article is mostly TFB's doing, but what I seem to gather is that the characters began as little men inside rock suits, but their portrayal had changed over time. If you have the "Moon Goon" comic you might double check to see if that's the case or not. You may adjust the article accordingly (but if you see that the little guys when wearing their suits look like living rocks with eyes and all, I'd argue that they just went through a retcon).
I just started editing the links in the comic stories for the Bluto/Brutus/Sonny/Black Jack character. I started linking Sonny/Black Jack to Bluto because that is where Sonny is mentioned. However I noticed you changed a one link for Sonny to Brutus. Before I continue I want to know where the link should really go. What article should it point at? Should we add something about Sonny in the Brutus article?
And what about the stories that don't call him by any name at all. Should we list his as The Big Swab or That Guy or whatever Popeye calls him in that story? Call him Bluto or Brutus? Not list him at all?
It is confusing to be sure. But my view is that they were all Bluto stand-ins, where every effort was made to call him anything but "Bluto". That until they realized he could be called as in the TV show, Brutus. In other words, Brutus is the last and more notable in a long list of Bluto replacements, enough to get his own article. So every one before that -> Bluto; after -> Brutus.
You'll be getting to Popeye #64 soon, that's the first one that uses "Brutus". Heads up, though: the same issue still features one of the nameless ones in another story (and they look quite different). You can see that the comic book's big list article has both "Brutus" and "Bluto" for that issue. I suppose you'll do the same?
I think that was the original intention, to have the big bearded guy (Bluto in all but name, for legal reasons) revealed to be related to another of Popeye's greater enemies. Maybe they retconned back years later, but it was true for a while.
Yes, Sonny was created in the same way Brutus was created to prevent any legal issues of the Bluto name. That is why Sunny should have his own page like Brutus. He has a shorter history than Brutus but he is a recurring character named in two or three stories that I can remember. Maybe more.
Don't forget that Brutus has been officialy stated to be a different character, in the Popeye Specials and the strip. If not, the jury may still be out on whether they're the same or not. Before Brutus, the comic books went out of their way to avoid naming the big guy, as you probably know, but still have him clearly be "himself" to star in the comics, instead of only using non-descript muscleheads (which were also in other stories, to be sure).
As for Sonny Boy having his own name, I suspect this was yet another trick to avoid the subject being named: "Sonny Boy" was what his mom called him, but not the other characters.
Have you seen him called Sonny Boy by Popeye or anyone else?
In that case, he might deserve an article, if you wanted to make it. Though I think he is still *supposed* to be the same old beardy fellow. The Italian comics had their big-mouthed Timoteo (their name for Bluto) as the Hag's son, so it also came across as that to official Popeye authors overseas.
Pity that the reprint ended, but they covered the entire Dell run! That's quite amazing, since so many American comics only get to a handful issues. It shows that Sagendorf's Popeye has that ol' classics draw.
I do want to get to a page for Sonny but it is not on the top of my list. I want to build on the comic book section with some more detailed plots. I may even want to make pages for other characters like Uncle Elmo and Lord Golden Oyl. So I'll get to them in order for the most part. I just know what order that will be yet.
IDW just released a new printing of "The Great Comic Book Tales by Bud Sagendorf" from 2011 so they still have an interest in Popeye. Maybe they will reprint some of the other issues in the future too. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Last January you set up a redirect for Cow to point to the Cattle article. Now in issue 39 there is a comic story titled "Cow?" Could you change that redirect? We can't create a page titled with a question mark so I can't create a page titled "Cow?"